What leg do they stand on?
In the spirit of defending The Gospel According to the Gospel, I have been trying to engage others about the gospel of our salvation.
I was warned about the doctrinal road I was going down, which I find quite odd. Why warn me about my doctrinal road, as if there is some consequence of it?
My acquaintance on line has almost made the exact same argument of once saved always saved that Tony Evens does in his book Totally Saved. This is the argument from Tony’s book:
What is the spiritual position we were given at salvation? We are seated with Christ “in heavenly places” (Ephesians 2:6). Were already there spiritually, and someday we’ll be there in person. This is an accomplished fact that occurred at salvation and is something we will never loose, page 131
This is why Paul could give this greeting to the Corinthians: “To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling” (1 Corinthians 1:2).
Now these folks were carnal, cantankerous, and prideful believers who needed more rebuke and correction than any other collection of people in the early church. And yet, they were sanctified people whose job description was being saints. The Corinthians were not functioning in a sanctified way, but they were still sanctified by position and therefore saints. Page 132
So again, I have to beg the question, why warn me of the doctrinal road I travel? After all I have believed like Tony Evens and my online conversing friend for most of my Christian life. After all the Spirit of God has moved in my life too.
So following the doctrine of Calvin, how can any Calvinist warn a wayward believer? What ground do they have to stand on to do it? After all those in Corinth were all saints, even as carnal, lukewarm Christians. So why should I have to worry if I am imperfect, as the Calvinist say? There is nothing I can do to become unsaved? After all I still love Jesus and want what I find in scripture and I want to be obedient to His commands. Isn’t that at least a little more than the saints at Corinth?
Why should any immature Christian take heed to any warning in scripture, after all they are saved? Yeah, you may not get the biggest mansion on the block, but you get a place in heaven, right?
So why listen to Jesus when He warns of blotting out names in the book of life? Why should we listen to Jesus when he said, He will spew the lukewarm out of His mouth? Why should care Jesus will turn away many who say on that day Lord Lord? Why should we listen to Jesus when He says, every branch in Him that beareth not fruit is taken away? Why should we concern ourselves when He says, such branches are gathered and throw into the fire? Why should we listen to John the Baptist who warns those who have come forth to be baptized, to keep fruit in accordance with their repentance, because every tree that bears not good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire?
Let us the church, the sanctified, the saved ignore such warnings, because they are for those who “were not truly saved”. Unlike those of the truly saved unruly, disobedient Corinthian church.
After all men have taught, we are sitting with Christ in the heavenly realms, we are good to go with the green light, we are eternally saved.
You have heard it said:
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
But we say:
Don’t worry if you fall away, you have been seated with Christ in the heavenly realms and have tasted the heavenly gift and shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted of the goodness of the Word of God. For you can never “truly” fall away, you have already repented, there is no loss. You belong to Christ.
Really, once saved, what is there to fear?
 Hebrews 6:4-6