Is anybody out there?

I was having a discussion with Reform Theology on my blog about my beliefs and he asked if there is anyone online that I knew of that resembles my understanding of the gospel.  Here is my answer to Reform Theology and the question is still open.  Is there anyone anywhere that has any public venue that preaches the gospel I contend for?  The only ones I know of that have preached the gospel I contend for are listed below?

My Response.

I do not know of anyone that believes or contends for the gospel I read in scripture.  The best way to show a short version of what I believe is the gospel is my post “The gospel According to the gospel”

Here there are three basic nutshell points about our gospel:

  1. It was Abraham who was given the covenant of imputed righteousness, not those in the gospels.  This was for Him and his descendants.  Through Christ we are grafted into this imputed righteousness.

  1. Our gospel was first preached at Mt. Sinai, not in the gospels.  The Old Testament saints had our gospel and either lived it or didn’t like believers today.  Out gospel is nothing new.

  1. We are not saved, rather we have a hope of salvation.  The New Testament teaches our God speaks things that are not as if they were and He does so in our gospel when it speaks of our salvation.  Yet we know we have to endure, abide, remain in order to be saved.  The church doesn’t understand this and makes up the three tenses of salvation when Paul clearly teaches, who hope for what he has?

That’s the nutshell of the gospel of Paul, Peter, John, Hebrews, Jesus, Jude etc. that I find in scripture.  This nutshell doesn’t speak of the implications etc. but is meant to introduce you to the gospel.

If this is all true then you have to ask the question, why the cross?  The answer is really fascinating.

Imagine what The Gospel According to the Gospel does with the debate over once saved always saved.

I would really like your opinion on what I have written.  Let me know if you think I have represented the gospel properly and maybe there will be two of us.

3 thoughts on “Is anybody out there?

  1. I am still processing this. You make several good points, but I’m working out some other points.
    Salvation was purchased in the past and applied in the present. Salvation from hell is “cashed in” once we are dead. 2 Cor. 1:22 teaches that the Holy Spirit our deposit. Romans 8:29-30 lays out a chain that will be completed once it is started.

    • Reformed Theology,

      You said, “Salvation was purchased in the past and applied in the present.”

      Scripture teaches that are salvation was paid for at the cross, but it is not applied at present, it is the hope of our gospel. When Christ returns He will bring salvation to those who are looking for Him.

      (Heb 9:28 NIV) so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

      The first time He came it was only to make sacrifice for sin. Now that we are no longer bound by sins past we are to live a life unto salvation. If we do live it, the book of James, we don’t get it. We have to run the race, endure, overcome etc. to win the prize. This prize is our salvation.

      Have you read the chapter in my book called “Got Salvation”?

      This will point out more clearly what the New Testament teaches.

      (2 Cor 1:22 NIV) set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

      Yes the Holy Spirit is our deposit of the hope we have for our salvation. Again deposit on something we do not yet posses. But this is why we are not to grieve the Holy Spirit or insult the Spirit of grace. We can, and there are those who do, shipwreck their own faith and never attain to that which they were told they posses.

      (Rom 8:29-30 NIV) For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

      This scripture in Romans is a perfect example of God again calling things that are not as if they were in our gospel. Predestined, called, justified and glorified are all past tense. We may say that it makes sense that predestination, calling and justification make sense to us as past tense, but the glorified. For who of us has been given the glory promised when we reign with Christ?

      This portion of scripture is looking from God’s perspective and not ours. Since Christ was slain from the foundation of the world, our inheritance is from before the world began, we have been promised a salvation from before time and finally our names were written in the Lambs Book of Life, we hope, we can see how in God’s perspective it is all done.

      But who is the faithful and wise servant Jesus asked us. Is it the one who grew weary in doing well? Is it the one whose master takes a long time in coming and he forgets his place? Is it the one who doesn’t use what God has given him?

      I have more to say about this but don’t want to overrun you.

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