Why would God grieve if He knew man would sin?


I have been observing a conversation going back and forth between two individuals on another site.  One is advocating God foreknew that man would sin and the other that God did not.  The one who says God did not, contends that God is one who discovers and that His knowledge is not perfect.  He states, that God in His discovery of man’s utter wickedness was grieved that He ever made man, as stated in the book of Genesis.

Is this a biblical view of God?  Does this idea of God being so grieved that He made man, show God is not in the know?  Is God learning and discovering about us, in what we will do in our free will?

I am one who whole heartedly believes scripture teaches free will.  Anyone who reads my posts knows this.  But does free will mean God is discovering us and then reacting emotionally towards us as things are revealed to Him about us?

I responded to this person with the following:

I will tell you of a little tale.

I went and bought three little piglets.  I brought them home and gave them the names of Ham, Bacon and Pork Chop.  We loved those little pigs.  We cared for them, treated them kindly with fresh bedding, water and food.  They grew under our care.  We grew fond of them running up to the fence to receive treats from our hands.  We petted their snouts and called them all by name.  We delighted in our pigs.

But nothing would change in my heart the purpose I had for the pigs from even before I brought them home.  They were raised for the day of slaughter.  The names we gave those pigs did not make that day any easier.  We loved those pigs that were Ham, Bacon and Pork Chop. 

With grief in heart we did what we intended to do with those pigs.  With sadness we would visit an empty pig pen.  We would remorse the slop bucket now went to the chickens.  But when the day came we took our fresh bacon out of the frying pan, we were glad.  We did what we set out to do from the beginning, to raise pigs and eat them.

Now I am but a mere man that can have a purpose and foreknow in my little limited way the destiny of those pigs in my insignificant will.  But they were in my charge, they were my possession and I foreknew what was going to happen to them.  But it still grieved me when they were gone.  That is until they were what we intended them to be from the start.

Is God not greater than us?  Can He not have plans to make man for the purpose of showing us through all the ages the incomparable riches of His grace towards us in Christ Jesus?  Can it not be said that Jesus bore the shame of the cross for the joy set before Him?  The joy of His grace so lavishly shed upon us in His kingdom.  Is God not allowed to grieve over sin in man?  Is He not allowed to then rejoice in His joy when we become what He wants us to be in Christ? 

If I am allowed to have grief in my own little drama, until the purpose of my grief brings me the joy for which I set out in the first place, can not God?  Can not God grieve as more is at stake then just pigs?  Can He not feel pain as the objects of His affection reject Him and turn from Him to do utterly evil all the time?  Can He not experience this as He works in man the mystery of His gospel, even Christ Jesus?  More is at stake then a plate full of meat.  He has every right to grieve as much as He wants until that which He set out to do in the first place is complete.

His emotions have nothing to do with Him not knowing that man would be so sinful that He would wipe all but eight people off the face of the earth.  His emotions come as He interacts with the objects of His affection in the physical time and space we dwell in, not Him.  Why are you so eager to take away from God?

God is emotional.  Is it His grace and kindness you are under or His wrath?  Do you bring Him delight in believing what He says in His word or do you provoke Him to anger by your obstinacies in telling Him how He is?  By the way, you base your life off this as well you know.

Your education I can not hold a candle to.  You are so knowledgeable and I am but a simpleton.  But I ask you to become a fool like me and simply believe God at His word.  Be childlike in your understanding as you walk out your faith, not your knowledge, like a man of God.  Don’t you desire to be like Samuel?  Do you not want to be someone God will say, “You are highly favored?”  Don’t you want to have the faith of Abraham, so God will call you friend?  Doesn’t your heart burn to be like David who was a man after God’s own heart?  How are you a man after God’s own heart?

2 thoughts on “Why would God grieve if He knew man would sin?

  1. The ‘free will’ of man was not present until Eve ate of the Tree of Knowledge. Afterwards, God said ‘behold, the man is become as we..knowing both good AND evil.’ God is not so dumb as to demand Adam and Eve CHOOSE between only one choice…Good. One reality IS NOT A CHOICE. God intended, purposed, arranged…preordained…that man would choose darkness or LIGHT. ..GOOD AND EVIL. And SIN is the DARKNESS. Sin is the womb of the world. Sin is the DEATH nature God purposed and brought about in Eden when As man gives birth to his own offspring…so God experiences the birth of His own offspring…who are born out of the dark womb of the spiritually fallen. All of the growing and becoming…takes place in the darkness of the womb…which is symbolic of the ‘fallen world.’ As the offspring come forth through sanctification and fellowship with the Creator…they spiritually pass from ‘death to Life.’ Thus, we call Him..Father. Though He rejoices over those who ‘live’….He is grieved over those who are stillborn…..those who choose the womb of darkness and refuse the Light.

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