Is the wages of sin still death?

wages of sin is deathAlmost every Christian can quote the first part of Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death…”.  But what do we think when we quote Paul?  Do we think that the wages of sin is death no matter what!  Or is the wages of sin death only for the unbeliever, but Christians get a pass from Jesus when we sin.

There is a doctrine in the church which teaches that Christians can sin for an undetermined amount of time doing an undetermined amount of sinning and the wages of sin is not death.  This doctrine, to be more specific, says this sinning believer will not ever be in the danger of going to hell and certainly not result in spiritual death.

So to repeat the question, is the wages of sin still death, or not?

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Power of an Endless Life

the ten commandments

Once people leave the Wide Path that leads to destruction and choose to follow Christ, putting themselves on the Narrow Path, what is the standard that believers should live their lives by?  Are we as Christians supposed to become followers of the Torah?  Is the Old Testament Law now a requirement for the believer to obey?

Many Christians today have a biblical basis from scripture to say the ordinances found in the Old Testament are no longer required of God’s people.  We do not sacrifice animals, nor do we observe many other ordinances in the Torah.  Some will argue that even though we do not have to obey the ‘Sacrificial Law’ we have to obey the ‘Moral Law’ or the moral code of the Old Testament.  But is this true?

Many will argue that we need to continue to follow the ‘Moral Law’ found in the Torah, after all God doesn’t want us to murder… does He?  Of course the correct answer is no, God does not want us to comment murder.  In fact God doesn’t want us to violate any of the ‘Moral Law’ found in the Old Testament.  But if God doesn’t want us to violate this law, are we then bound to live under the influence of the Ten Commandments?

What if scripture actually teaches that those who preach this understanding of the gospel have actually left the gospel?  What if keeping the Ten Commandments is exactly the opposite of what the hope is for the new believer?

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To Tell the Truth

Will the real gospel please stand upThere used to be a television game show called ‘To Tell the Truth’.  I remember watching it when I was younger.  The point of the program was to trick the contestants into believing a lie.  They did this by having three participants try to persuade the contestants of their occupation.  However, only one of the participants actually held that occupation.  The other two participants were lying through their teeth to make themselves seem more credible than the one who actually held the job.  The contestants were each allowed to ask the participants questions to get to the truth.  But of course, the fun of the show was to see the contestants put their votes on the one whom they thought was telling the truth only to see them select a liar.

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Two Face the Gospel

 In Christianity there are diffently two faces of the gospel presented to the lost.  And both of these personifications are at opposite extremes of the gospel, as if the gospel has more than one truth found in it.  On one had we have those who present grace and only grace as the guarantee of eternal life.  They profess that our behavior after being born again has nothing to do with our salvation.  Consequently, the logic is one can live as they want and still go to heaven.  Of course the champion of this is personified by Christ.  On the other hand we have those who present works as a prerequisite on top of grace in order to be saved.  The Law, give by Moses, is the one everyone thinks of when it comes to having to do works in order to be saved.  Both of these views can find no agreement with each other, as if there is two completely different gospels found in scripture.  The result is two versions of Christianity embodied in one gospel.  Let’s call this embodiment what it is, let’s call it “Two Face”. Continue reading

Hatred of Scripture

 American Christianity claims to embrace the truth of the gospel found in the written word of God.  It claims to walk in the light and teachings of the scriptures and boast of a love of the scripture and the author of the scriptures.  However, it is been my experience that Christians only love certain verses of scripture that support their doctrine of liking.  They do not embrace the whole counsel of God as they claim.

The word of God clearly teaches that though Jesus Christ we have forgiveness of sin.  This I can agree with my Christian brothers on.  But scripture also teaches that being justified by the blood of Christ we must live in the newness of the life in the Spirit or we have not been transformed by the Spirit.  This is where my Christian brothers and I part company. 

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Most quoted books in the Bible… I & II Opinions

 Being a blogger, I like to go to other Christian blogs and check out what they are saying.  As in the church so is the World Wide Web.  The church loves to talk about the grace of God, which is good.  We all have to start with the grace of God in order to be born of the Spirit.  What I find troubling is the kind of grace that the church is advocating. 

The bloggers following the church say grace is grace sufficient to save everyone who calls on the name of the Lord.  They actually teach that Christians can not be like Christ.  That we really never do become new creations in Christ Jesus.  Instead they teach, that we still living in the flesh according to the sin nature, are covered by the grace of God, and for this reason we need to have passion to please God because we can never walk perfectly before the Lord.

I have tried to get others to discus scripture that says differently but I can not get anyone to talk of those verses.  They will tell me to get saved, that I am spiritually blind therefore can not understand the truths of scriptures.  I get references on good books to study, get told to go study this chapter or that chapter in the Bible, yet no one of them will address the verses I put forth. Continue reading

Changing the debate

Henry,

I do not know how much you read my blog, but I have been very desirous to converse specifically with you about things I see in scripture.  I wish to address your comments in a more formal manner than just another comment upon comment that sometimes gets overlooked.  Especially concerning such important fundamental truths about the hope held out to us in the gospel.  I hope my addresses to your comments will stir a lot of contemplation and a study of scripture by those who observe this conversation between brothers.

I wish to say, I like your summary of where the crux of the matter is for those who put their hope in Jesus Christ.  For this truly is the heart of the matter. 

“So of course where we are at is that those who desire to be sheep need to take heed that they are not complacent lest they become a instead goat – or they are living as a goat whilst assuming that they are a sheep. I think this is the crux of the matter.”

Ironically this is just one way scripture points to the truth of what you are saying.  In other cases it speaks of fruit and trees, again in other places it comes out and plainly speaks of believing in vain or falling from grace, etc.  Sadly though one half of Christianity believes these truths are not for them, the other half is completely unaware of these truths.  Leaving only a small minority who understand the truth you elaborated on and who strive to live by it. Continue reading