In my last post ‘Two Face the Gospel’ we looked at the two different gospels coming from scripture. One gospel says our salvation is by grace only and has nothing to do with our behavior, before or after conversion. The other side of this two faced gospel is the opposite extreme. It says that our behavior after being saved does matter. This side of the Two Face Gospel says if we do not obey God we will not be saved. These two opposing doctrines, each presented as the truth of the gospel, are completely supported by scripture. Continue reading
American Christianity claims to embrace the truth of the gospel found in the written word of God. It claims to walk in the light and teachings of the scriptures and boast of a love of the scripture and the author of the scriptures. However, it is been my experience that Christians only love certain verses of scripture that support their doctrine of liking. They do not embrace the whole counsel of God as they claim.
The word of God clearly teaches that though Jesus Christ we have forgiveness of sin. This I can agree with my Christian brothers on. But scripture also teaches that being justified by the blood of Christ we must live in the newness of the life in the Spirit or we have not been transformed by the Spirit. This is where my Christian brothers and I part company.
They do not want to understand the following truths found in our scriptures. Continue reading
In my last post “Resetting the table of Predestination” We went through scripture to see if there was any other way to understand Romans 8:29-31. These few verses are used by the Calvinist to anchor their doctrines of Predestination (God before time began foreknew and chose only some to be saved), Election (God calls only those whom He predestined) and Limited Atonement (God only justified those whom He foreknew and predestined to be saved). Of Course the jest of this is… to hell with the rest of mankind.
Calvinist would argue it is not God rejecting the unelected, it is the unelected not having any desire to know God. Sounds good on the surface but they also have a doctrine that teaches no man can no God because man is absolutely reprobate and can not know God, of course without God revealing Himself to reprobate mankind. So their soft spoken answer to God predestinating part of mankind to hell by saying these do not want to know God, does not get God off the hook for the Calvinist. According to the doctrine of Calvinism, if those unelected do not want to know God, it is God’s fault that He did not reveal Himself to the unelected. Remember according to Calvinist man has no free will, not even free will to seek God without God’s active participation in it. Continue reading
Many people (Calvinist AKA Reform Theology) use Romans 8:29-30 as an anchor to the doctrine of Limited Atonement (Christ only died for those who will be saved) and the doctrine of Election (Only those who are selected by God will be saved). They contend that God foreknew who would be His because He in His sovereignty chose who was to be His elect and who were not. Put another way, those who are going to heaven and those who are going to hell and this based completely on God’s sovereign will and not on man’s free will.
So the doctrine goes like this. Those whom God foreknew in His sovereign election, He predestines to be conformed in the image of His Son. Not only this, those He predestined, God calls them to be saved. Naturally those He calls He will justify with the blood of Christ. Those He has chosen and justified He will glorify when He comes.
Rom 8:29-31 KJV For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. (30) Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. (31) What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Many try to grapple with this verse when they find the doctrine of limited atonement and the doctrine of Election not only offensive, but in contradiction to the rest of what they read in scripture. But yet these verses seem to say what the Calvinist say it says. Is there any other way to look at these verses under the light of other scripture so it does not contradict what so many people believe scripture teaches about free will and Christ dying for all mankind? I would like to propose a fresh look at these verses and reset the table Calvinist have laid before us. Continue reading
I do not know how much you read my blog, but I have been very desirous to converse specifically with you about things I see in scripture. I wish to address your comments in a more formal manner than just another comment upon comment that sometimes gets overlooked. Especially concerning such important fundamental truths about the hope held out to us in the gospel. I hope my addresses to your comments will stir a lot of contemplation and a study of scripture by those who observe this conversation between brothers.
I wish to say, I like your summary of where the crux of the matter is for those who put their hope in Jesus Christ. For this truly is the heart of the matter.
“So of course where we are at is that those who desire to be sheep need to take heed that they are not complacent lest they become a instead goat – or they are living as a goat whilst assuming that they are a sheep. I think this is the crux of the matter.”
Ironically this is just one way scripture points to the truth of what you are saying. In other cases it speaks of fruit and trees, again in other places it comes out and plainly speaks of believing in vain or falling from grace, etc. Sadly though one half of Christianity believes these truths are not for them, the other half is completely unaware of these truths. Leaving only a small minority who understand the truth you elaborated on and who strive to live by it. Continue reading
What gospel are we as believers accountable to? Are we accountable to a gospel that teaches we, as those on the narrow path, are forever in God’s grace and are bound to forever be in the presence of Christ? Which is not a teaching of Christ, for Christ Himself said that not all who have left the wide path will find themselves going through the narrow gate. In fact, Christ tells those on the narrow path to make every effort to make it through the narrow gate. Of course the words “strive” or “make every effort” will throw many into confusions or fits, because our salvation is not of any effort of our own.
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Now I am with those who say our salvation has nothing to with us. But only in this sense, God has done what we could not do to provide a way of salvation for mankind. Continue reading
I recently posted comments from Peter concerning our salvation and how he doesn’t relate salvation to the believer in any way as taught in Christianity. Christianity teaches that, at a minimal, believers are saved at conversion. Others say that they were saved, are being saved and will be saved. Peter says none of this concerning our salvation. Instead in the first chapter of I Peter we find him talking about a coming salvation and how we are receiving not the beginning of our faith but the end of our faith concerning our salvation. In Peter’s eyes, we were born again into a living hope with an inheritance kept for us in heaven.
Unfortunately, Robert like so many believers think my position of the timing of salvation, means that I teach forgiveness by the blood of Christ and His imputed righteousness is not instantaneous at conversion. Instead because of this understanding of the church, it is implied that I teach this, although nowhere have I ever taught this. Simply because they can not separate those things from salvation. They have not seen in scripture where there is a group of people who were imputed righteousness by God and most of them still died in their sins.
I further advocate that believers will not find any teaching coming either from Peter or any other writers of the New Testament about three tenses of salvation. Continue reading