Is the wages of sin still death?

wages of sin is deathAlmost every Christian can quote the first part of Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death…”.  But what do we think when we quote Paul?  Do we think that the wages of sin is death no matter what!  Or is the wages of sin death only for the unbeliever, but Christians get a pass from Jesus when we sin.

There is a doctrine in the church which teaches that Christians can sin for an undetermined amount of time doing an undetermined amount of sinning and the wages of sin is not death.  This doctrine, to be more specific, says this sinning believer will not ever be in the danger of going to hell and certainly not result in spiritual death.

So to repeat the question, is the wages of sin still death, or not?

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Yikes! I added an about page.

Well I finally broke down and did it.  I added an about page with a picture of that trouble making glasseyedave.  Now everyone can see who that contentious person is who is willing to challenge what we say scripture teaches.  So for everyone who wants to see what I look like and learn a little about me now is the time to go to that little section about who I am.   We can finally look past the Polaroid picture of glasseydave when he was 16.

Amerika

Statue of LibertySome people consider America to be like Rome in its final days.  We are seeing the collapse of our economy and the erosion of all civil liberties and what are supposed to be unalienable rights.  Yet today every right that has been given to us by God Himself has been denied to the American people and repackaged only to be given back to us as rights coming from the government.  With this they give us fees, to exercise rights that our forefathers exercised without any restriction or permission from the government.  If we do not pay the fees and exercise our rights as still coming from God and not the state, we are fined.  If we still will not give up the antiquated ideas found in the constitution we will be imprisoned and our land taken away. Continue reading

Hatred of Scripture

 American Christianity claims to embrace the truth of the gospel found in the written word of God.  It claims to walk in the light and teachings of the scriptures and boast of a love of the scripture and the author of the scriptures.  However, it is been my experience that Christians only love certain verses of scripture that support their doctrine of liking.  They do not embrace the whole counsel of God as they claim.

The word of God clearly teaches that though Jesus Christ we have forgiveness of sin.  This I can agree with my Christian brothers on.  But scripture also teaches that being justified by the blood of Christ we must live in the newness of the life in the Spirit or we have not been transformed by the Spirit.  This is where my Christian brothers and I part company. 

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Most quoted books in the Bible… I & II Opinions

 Being a blogger, I like to go to other Christian blogs and check out what they are saying.  As in the church so is the World Wide Web.  The church loves to talk about the grace of God, which is good.  We all have to start with the grace of God in order to be born of the Spirit.  What I find troubling is the kind of grace that the church is advocating. 

The bloggers following the church say grace is grace sufficient to save everyone who calls on the name of the Lord.  They actually teach that Christians can not be like Christ.  That we really never do become new creations in Christ Jesus.  Instead they teach, that we still living in the flesh according to the sin nature, are covered by the grace of God, and for this reason we need to have passion to please God because we can never walk perfectly before the Lord.

I have tried to get others to discus scripture that says differently but I can not get anyone to talk of those verses.  They will tell me to get saved, that I am spiritually blind therefore can not understand the truths of scriptures.  I get references on good books to study, get told to go study this chapter or that chapter in the Bible, yet no one of them will address the verses I put forth. Continue reading

Changing the debate

Henry,

I do not know how much you read my blog, but I have been very desirous to converse specifically with you about things I see in scripture.  I wish to address your comments in a more formal manner than just another comment upon comment that sometimes gets overlooked.  Especially concerning such important fundamental truths about the hope held out to us in the gospel.  I hope my addresses to your comments will stir a lot of contemplation and a study of scripture by those who observe this conversation between brothers.

I wish to say, I like your summary of where the crux of the matter is for those who put their hope in Jesus Christ.  For this truly is the heart of the matter. 

“So of course where we are at is that those who desire to be sheep need to take heed that they are not complacent lest they become a instead goat – or they are living as a goat whilst assuming that they are a sheep. I think this is the crux of the matter.”

Ironically this is just one way scripture points to the truth of what you are saying.  In other cases it speaks of fruit and trees, again in other places it comes out and plainly speaks of believing in vain or falling from grace, etc.  Sadly though one half of Christianity believes these truths are not for them, the other half is completely unaware of these truths.  Leaving only a small minority who understand the truth you elaborated on and who strive to live by it. Continue reading

Accountability to what gospel?

What gospel are we as believers accountable to?  Are we accountable to a gospel that teaches we, as those on the narrow path, are forever in God’s grace and are bound to forever be in the presence of Christ?  Which is not a teaching of Christ, for Christ Himself said that not all who have left the wide path will find themselves going through the narrow gate.  In fact, Christ tells those on the narrow path to make every effort to make it through the narrow gate.  Of course the words “strive” or “make every effort” will throw many into confusions or fits, because our salvation is not of any effort of our own. 

Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.[1]

Now I am with those who say our salvation has nothing to with us.  But only in this sense, God has done what we could not do to provide a way of salvation for mankind. Continue reading